Rebuttal of the Pro View

Wethanktheeditors for theopportunity towritearebuttal toDr.LambersHeerspink’sandDr.Gansevoort’sproside of the debate of whether albuminuria is an appropriate therapeutic target. There are a few areas in which we agree with their argument. Albuminuria does predict poor outcomes, and the presence of albuminuria identifies individuals who are at high risk of progression. Increases in albuminuria also predict poor outcomes. However, the review of the analyses of change in albuminuria in trials missed that this association is seen in both the treated and placebo groups (1,2). A change in albuminuria is telling us something about the disease state (i.e., is a marker) and is not necessarily a treatment effect. This latter distinction is important because treatments that lower albuminuria may cause more harm than good. Indeed, evenwith themost established therapy to slow the progressive loss of renal function, inhibition of the renin-angiotensin system, dual inhibitors of the renin-angiotensin-aldosterone system lowered proteinuria further but caused more harm than good to the participants (3–6). As cited in the BiomarkerSurrogacy Evaluation Schema (7), the main danger of the use of surrogates is that they may not capture the combined risk/benefit of a treatment. Although Drs. Lambers Heerspink and Gansevoort may argue that exceptions to the rule that treatments that lower albuminuria decrease the risk of ESRD do not invalidate the rule, we would argue that exceptions mean that each treatment needs to be studied individually to determine whether it is both safe and effective. Because some therapies that lower albuminuria do decrease the risk of progression, change in proteinuria in earlier phase studies could help identify potentially effective agents. However, the treatments should then be tested in fully powered studies before they are approved and used in patients. Drs. Lambers Heerspink and Gansevoort further argue that the Kidney Disease Improving Global Outcomes (KDIGO) guidelines recommend targeting proteinuria and thus we should not need to further debate this issue. Of course, our experience in the renal community with the recommendations from guidelines on the early use of erythropoietin-stimulating agents later being established inmultiplewell designed clinical trials to be harmful should teach us that guidelines are often opinionsanddonot trumpdata. Furthermore, in reading the clinical practice guideline for GN again, one needs to say “not quite” to the authors’ representation of themessage fromKDIGO.TheGNguidelines primarily useproteinuria as a guide for which patients to treat with disease-modifying agents (8). That is, proteinuria identifies individuals at increased risk for progression and could be used as a guide for which patients to treat. This is not unreasonable and would be analogous to stating that individuals with diabetes and overt proteinuria are at increased risk and should be treated with an angiotensin-converting enzyme inhibitor (ACEI) or an angiotensin receptor blocker (ARB). It is not the same as saying that proteinuria is a target. The guideline section on IgA nephropathy does recommend uptitrating ACEIs orARBs to target proteinuria,1 g/das tolerated, which is the only recommendation in this guideline that specifically targets proteinuria (recommendation 10.2.3). This is somewhat ironic, because the body of evidence for any specific treatment for IgA nephropathy is weak. However,we also point to recommendation 5.4.2,which states the following: “We suggest that, for the initial episode of nephrotic syndrome associated with minimal change disease (MCD), statins not be used to treat hyperlipidemia, and ACEI or ARBs not be used in normotensive patients to lower proteinuria.” Thus, the recommendation for treatment of proteinuria is not universal and isnot a settledquestion. Furthermore,wepoint out that both of these recommendations were graded as level 2D, which indicates that the evidence is very low. We also have some concerns regarding the metaanalysis and whether it can be used for evidence of surrogacy. The meta-analysis states that for multiple interventions, a 30% reduction in albuminuria correlates with a 23.7% decreased risk of ESRD (9). With the exception of ACEIs and ARBs, none of the other included interventions have been shown to slow progression to ESRD in randomized studies. As Drs. Lambers Heerspink and Gansevoort cite in their editorial, a valid surrogate would require at least three randomized studies in three drug classes and we do not have that for albuminuria. Among the other interventions that they discuss in their editorial, protein reduction has not been shown to prevent the need for dialysis (the patient-centered outcome), nor has pentoxifylline. The biomarker-surrogacy argument fails their generalizability argument. We read the Biomarker-Surrogacy Evaluation Schema with interest and think that the results are not as clear cut *Veterans Affairs Pittsburgh Healthcare System, University of Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania; and Vanderbilt University School of Medicine, Nashville, Tennessee