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In the midst of the tumultuous Covid-19 pandemic in the United States, in-depth, conversational podcasts often addressed the ambiguities in this moment of grief and collective loss. Through an analysis of several podcast episodes, this article examines how the hosts engage with the flexible structure, intimate style, and vulnerability of podcasts to address the messiness of grief. While digital mourning studies have focused on the benefits of grieving lost loved ones online, this article argues that the malleability and openness of this particular genre of meaning-making podcasts cultivates an immersive space for listeners to reflect on their own profound feelings of grief. Therapeutic, self-care podcasts move away from easy solutions and instead focus on how to ride the waves of uncertainty; the long-form conversation show,  WTF , reveals the unfiltered grieving process; and the experimental podcast,  The Liturgists , creates a ritualistic space for listeners to reflect on emotions of loss.

‘The bad things are just too close right now’: podcasts cultivate spaces to sit with the messiness of grief